[There are just a few hours left in Eric Peters’ Kickstarter campaign for his new album/book project, Far Side of the Sea. Get on board while you can! Bailey Gillespie recently interviewed Eric about the project and we’re delighted to welcome her to the Rabbit Room today. This is the first of a whole series of interviews she’s doing on her blog, which you can check out here.]
BG: Eric, you’ve described Far Side of the Sea as a concept album that, lyrically, highlights the imagined experiences of inanimate objects. What drew you to this idea, and are there any specific objects from your childhood that still hold significant meaning for you?
EP: My Junior High school (boy, wasn’t that a fun time?) offered a sculpture class. Mr. Hotard, a short squatty man with a great grey walrus mustache, must have been a gentle and patient teacher as he had to manage semester’s-full of twelve & thirteen-year-old know-it-alls, all of us armed with the sundry sharp and blunt tools necessary to the projects.
Our assignments were in a variety of media: clay, chalk, wood, clothes-hanger wire and pantyhose, paper mache. But the wood-sculpting project wound up being my favorite. Somehow, from a block of cedar, I carved a fish, and I felt mighty proud of what I’d made. What has stuck with me most about the process, however, was the mistake I made, an inadvertent slip of the chisel, that led me to resolving the tailfin shape that had confounded me. That error, that unintentional gouge, led me to a better, more representative piece. I still have the fish sculpture in all its shellacked glory. I suppose the concept for Far Side Of The Sea is of similar ilk: to allow overlooked objects (or people) the freedom to be themselves in the retelling of their stories, that maybe the mistakes or hurts or joys or defeats can cumulatively echo something more grand, more permanent.
BG: Is this album a departure, musically, from your previous work — or does it have a similar sound/style to past music in the Eric Peters canon?
EP: Producer Gabe Scott and I are very early in the pre-production (writing, arranging) stage, but FSS will be a bit of a departure from my past work. I need it to be. I’ve had to accept that there’s really no way I can follow-up Birds Of Relocation. If I strive to replicate that album, I’ll not only lose my mind, but set myself in a path of defeat. BoR was born out of a very unique season, maybe a once in a lifetime season, and it’s not in my genes to willingly duplicate the sound and emotions of BoR without being disingenuous.
To a fault, my songwriting has always been prisoner to the ebb and flow of my life, to the dark, despondent seasons as well as to those that are bright and hopeful. Stylistically, I want FSS to be a departure, a step into unexplored territory, not for the purpose of betraying my fan base, but to be brave, to try something new musically, to make myself uncomfortable. In our initial meetings, I charged Gabe with the task of challenging me, to present production ideas that would take me into unfamiliar terrain, all while retaining what is essentially me.
With each song, Gabe has offered two (or more) production routes, I’m purposefully choosing the less familiar way. I don’t know what the final product will be, but I’m trying not to be complacent. I make these production- and song-direction choices with a very real fear: that no one will like FSS, that I will finally lose the last vestige of interest in my music, that folks will walk away for good, that I’ll fail. By no means do I wish to alienate or disregard my fanbase, but I had to come to accept that there was no way I could live up to expectations, mainly my own, on the heels of BoR.
The subject matter alone of Far Side Of The Sea required that I willingly enter the dark and secrets of overlooked, unwanted, rejected objects or people. I am naturally inclined to go there anyway, so it wasn’t too difficult a stretch to look for atoms of myself in their stories, in their failed hopes and dreams, in their irrelevance, in their weariness from striving, in the questioning of their self-worth. In the end, I want to be humbly proud of my work, however insignificant it may be in the grand industry of music, to be able to look back on a career of trying to articulate myself, of seeking authenticity, of creating a body of work that is genuine and communicates something bigger than any of my idiotic insecurities or fears.
BG: The first time we spoke, I was impacted by how you responded to a conversation about writing songs with dark vs. lighthearted melodies. You asked why we should feel guilty for writing melancholy songs if that’s where we were in life. I appreciated this, as it took the pressure off to create in a way that felt fake. Some songs on your past records have dealt with darker themes yet still sound joyful and catchy. How do you tackle this in songwriting and is this usually the result of writing lyrics or melody first — or neither?
EP: I generally gravitate to melody over lyric. I find it hard to latch onto a lyric if there’s not much anchoring it melodically. That’s just me; I don’t put lyrics ahead of melody. Accessible melodies married to weighty lyrics is one of the traits I value in so many of my favorite artists, The Weepies, in my mind, exemplifying this. I find and listen to new music this way, so I suppose it naturally follows that I should write songs similarly, or at least attempt to. If a view to darkness and melancholia can be something of a faint light for someone else, then I suppose my writing is an asset, however insignificant, to folks who are in need of that light. I think the world sees sadness as a weakness, as a lack of character, or faith, or emotional strength. But I think sadness is more like a yearning — for hope, for light, for truth to take root in this world, for justice, for a Kingdom Come.
BG: One of Scripture’s most hope-filled truths is that God “has made all things beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the human heart; yet no one can fathom what God has done from beginning to end” (Eccl. 3:11). Although we’ll all struggle with internal battles until the day we’re called home, is there an example you can share of how songwriting has served as a balm for your mind, body, or soul along the way?
EP: Songwriting has always been cathartic. I generally write songs with the hope that they won’t fall on deaf ears, that I’m not the only one who wrestles with demons, who struggles to believe that God actually likes me, that he isn’t massively disappointed in me. So, in that sense, I don’t want my songs to be a self-confessional burden to anyone, but to be something good and lasting.
BG: Top five favorite songs you’ve been streaming this summer?
EP: I tend to get stuck on one or two artists at a time, and then live with their music for months on end. Lately it’s been Lord Huron’s new record, Strange Trails. The main songwriter, Ben, creates worlds that I look forward to visiting, to escaping into, to being haunted by. Their previous album, Lonesome Dreams, is still one of my favorite records. Also, I’ve reacquainted myself with Bruce Hornsby & The Range. As far as I’m concerned, no matter if you were born in 1972 or in 2000, “Scenes From The Southside” (1998) is a splendid record, top to bottom. Tegan & Sarah’s latest, Heartthrob, is tremendous. Good songwriting is timeless.
BG: So, what does the rest of the year look like for you, and how can we stay updated on your creative projects?
EP: I have a lawncare business to help make ends meet, so I’ll continue that labor until late October/early November when the season mercifully ends, and I get to rest my body again. Ideally, producer Gabe Scott and I will reconvene in the next few days, after a month-long hiatus, to continue working on the album. I’d love to be able to say FSS, and its accompanying art-photography book companion piece, will release in mid-October, but I really have no control over these things. I’d like to release it by early November, at the latest.
My concert schedule is light the rest of 2015, so I will keep myself busy with various home projects, getting my hands dirty in the flowerbeds or in my shop making Daily Pieces (art sculptures from repurposed objects), by painting canvases, reading, continuing to get the word out about my secondhand book-selling endeavor (The Book Mole), writing new songs if the Muse allows, and, time permitting, even get in a rare but welcome round of golf. All, of course, while being a husband and a dad to two young boys. I’m not super great at keeping folks updated, but I do try to keep in touch via my mailing list (sign up here: http://www.ericpeters.net), via Twitter (@ericpetersmusic), Instagram (https://instagram.com/ericpeters), and, lest I forget, Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/ericpetersmusic).
[Click here to check out the Far Side of the Sea Kickstarter page.]
Nice interview, Bailey! Thanks, Eric for the perspective into your process! Beyond thrilled that the KS was funded…
Thanks, Glenn! I can’t wait to hear what Eric’s got for us next. Maybe there will be a song from the perspective of his shredded hat (or maybe his aggressive lawn mower)?
Cannot wait to hear that this album is done and ready for purchase.
This sounds awesome and scary and great, Eric. I’m looking forward to hearing it. (in a good expectations but low-pressure sort of way!)
Bailey, great question-asking too. 🙂
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