Calling, Collaboration, and the Idols of the Artist



  1. Stephen Hesselman


    Wow! Thank you guys for this conversation… very meaningful to me and grateful for the perspectives, wisdom, and insights shared here. Ben, I have both your albums and know that when I see your name in the production credits that it’s  about 100% likely I’m really going to love it. You have a real gift! Thanks so much for your honesty and thoughtful advice!

  2. Tyler Smith

    Thanks for doing this interview, guys.

    Ben, I am so  grateful for how God is and has been using your gifts.  I love hearing about how much joy it brings you.  AND Cymbal Crashing Clouds is one of my all-time favorite records.

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